He and his twin sister, Jaina, were born five years after Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi, and because the New Republic was under attack by the forces of the Empire, the twins were raised in hideaways, first on New Alderaan and then on the planet Anoth under the guidance of Leia's trusted aide, Winter. Dooku isn't stalemating Tenebrous, Vader ain't doing any better tbh. I’m talking about a completely even 1v1 fight, in the first battle on the Anakin Solo, Ben stabbed Jacen and the Sith Lord was also distracted by his ship blowing up. He asked Mara for anything she could tell him about how to defeat Abeloth, but she had nothing—and then the spirit of Jacen Soloarrived as well. His hearing faded and his head began to spin, and he saw Jacen, one hand still raised to keep Luke pinned, sneering and taking his time rising. Team Darth Caedus vs Team Superman. Luke followed up with a palm-heel to the same target, using the impact to drive himself away from his attacker and buy some maneuvering room. Caedus then realized that his former lover, Tenel Ka, had turned her fleet against him during his attack on … Sheev is considerably ahead of his opponents. Luke dropped his lightsaber, bracing one hand against the other so he could use the strength of both arms to hammer his elbow up under Jacen's chin. In this moment, there was a golden opportunity for Caedus to finish Luke off. After his mother's death at the hands of a malfunctioning security droid, he would go on to join an Imperial Academy. Well, its finally finished. This is my final analysis of Caedus’s major battles during his brief incumbency as the Dark Lord of the Sith. Lumiya was one of Luke's greatest adversaries following Palpatine's demise, and … Now that I just realized Dooku and Mace are also there... depends. Jacen had caught him on the barely healed scar from his first fight with Lumiya, and now his breath was coming in short painful gasps. You should probably bump Luke down to his ROTJ version, and give Luke an inferior teammate (Darth Krayt, or someone on his level). They exchanged perfunctory attacks as he tumbled past, then Luke was alone in the corner, watching the green column of his nephew's lightsaber move toward the door. So If it seems like I’m emphasizing Caedus’s abilities that’s because I am, however that does not mean I think he surpasses Luke. Possessing the full strength of his birthright as a first generation Skywalker descendant. Luke raised his lightsaber, slashing through the thorn bed as he sprang. Add to Watchlist Unwatch. However, I do subscribe to the notion that, because of how fresh Luke’s injuries were, Caedus’s attacks which made contact with those areas may have done more damage than they would have otherwise. Jacen scrambled to his feet, barely bringing his weapon up in time to block a vicious downstroke. KMC Forums > Star Wars > Star Wars: Literature & Expanded Universe > Denning on Darth Caedus or Darth Krayt vs Luke Skywalker DarthAnt66 Troy Denning is the author responsible for Invincible and Apocalypse, among many other works. 4 Luke vs Lumiya. 19 years later, he encountered former Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi(Under the alias "Ben Kenobi") and joined the Rebel Alliance to bring down the Galactic Empire. 3-year protection plan from SquareTrade - $2.99 3-year protection plan from SquareTrade - $2.99 Opens an information Overlay. Except Jacen was sliding backward, one hand extended behind him, using the Force to pull himself toward a tendril-draped rack in the far corner of the torture chamber. Also, interested in hearing your opinions on round 2. However, that is not the case. His blade met Jacen's in a shower of brilliant sparks. Luke’s use of an eye gouge is seen by many as a cheap shot. Team Darth Vader vs Team Luke Skywalker. Dad's right behind you.". He really doesn't. He sensed his father very near now, on the same deck and moving fast. The garrote went completely slack. After this point, Caedus was literally stabbed in the back by Ben, at which point the fight ended. Before that, he broke off the engagement by retreating backwards when Luke had him on his knees after three hits. The rack's slender tendrils were tightening around Jacen, cutting into his flesh and oozing a yellowish irritant that made skin puff up and split. He just sprang. Pretty even, but leaning towards Plagueis. Like Kylo Ren, he embraced a new identity: Darth Caedus. Luke was already throwing himself to the deck. In 19 ABY, Solo went with his mother and siblings to Shalam for a treaty signing, as Organa Solo hoped to expose the children to more high-level diplomacy. Darth Sidious(RoTJ) The Team RulesDark Empire Luke, Caedus at his Peak.The duo has perfect teamwork and are determined to win.The Emperor is in chara Anyway, I agree with post #30. Team Banite. Jacen hit first, his skull clunking hard into the durasteel. Skywalker planned to use the blood trail to set a trap for Caedus. "I don't think you'll need any help finding him, Jacen. Jacen wasn't going to surrender, and Luke wouldn't have believed him if he offered. Jacen's lightsaber droned twice, filling that corner of the torture chamber with flickering green light. Jacen screamed, and the smell of scorched bone and singed hair filled the air. Re: Darth Caedus vs Cade Skywalker on September 12th 2019, 8:04 am I prefer Cade's ability to revive himself from the brink of death and then turn his foes minor injuries to … Meanwhile, Ben Skywalker escaped from Galactic Alliance Guard custody and arrived with Tenel Ka Djo and the Hapan Home Fleetto protect the Jedi stronghold. Here Jacen once again successfully baited Luke into smashing down his guard before attempting to strangle him with one of the vines, avoiding his uncle’s strikes. Second round, Dooku can barely contend with either and is thus the weak link. Mara Jade was forced to slay the insane Jedi Master with the help of Luke Skywalker, who had been instantly relieved of the buzzing pressure in his mind after the death of his clone. The victim of war's terrors, Jacen succumbed to the Dark side, adopted the alias Darth Caedus and committed unspeakable crimes including killing Mara Jade Skywalker. Darth Caedus (born Jacen Solo) is the main antagonist of The Legacy of the Force series. The team has one lucky shot. The garrote loosened a little. Not debatable. Jacen launched himself over Luke in a high Force flip. Jacen turned his head, but Luke's little finger scratched across something soft and bulbous. What point would there have been? But he has feats in the Force that put him head and shoulders above Vader, and a speed feat that put him as much faster than Vader or Dooku, another important edge. Jacen stumbled back, groaning, the green light of his lightsaber briefly illuminating Ben's face as the boy struggled to cut himself free. Before beginning There is one issue that I would like to get out of the way. Has tenebrous feats putting him above Dooku or Vader in sabers? "Wait!" The … After the fall of the empire, he would go on to establish the New Jedi Order and eventually serve as its Grand Master. And rightly so, as it is difficult to see someone resort to a move like this as anything but cheap. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Only one leg remained caught, though it was still entwined in a half a dozen places. Even that small wound would have left most humans paralyzed with agony. The son of famous Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker, he was left on Tatooine with his aunt and uncle after the fall of the Jedi Order. I’ve seen in other threads that Jacen dodging Luke’s attack in this particular portion of their fight is proof that it was a move of desperation. Luke spat out a mouthful of blood and Force-leapt after his nephew, at the same time reaching out to drag him back. Jacen stopped pulling and started to swing his free hand around. Nope. Instead, Luke was blindsided by something heavy and spiky, and his body exploded into pain as he slammed into a durasteel wall. Jacen began to slash his lightsaber up and down, cutting the vines away two and three at a time. The EU version was sooo much better. Luke struck again with his lightsaber, using both hands and putting all his strength into the attack, beating his nephew's guard down so far that Jacen's emerald blade bit into his own shoulder. [Luke] was, in fact, standing in the doorway of a secret cabin filled with Yuuzhan Vong torture devices, watching his twisted nephew taunt his captive son. Plagueis loses round one, though him and Tenebrous combined have a shot at winning round two. At least not in the sense that it was crucial for him to resort to this or be cut down by Caedus. The fixture smashed into his head and shoulders, slamming his face into the deck. He is, in my opinion, the most skilled swordsman to ever live, and lastly, he was stronger in the Force than Caedus, both in terms of potential, and how much of this potential was realized. Instead of continuing to fight, he accelerated into the spin, using the Force to hurl them both into the nearest wall. Nov 12, 2018 - Agreed Drake! Luke started forward, his injured knee buckling each time he put weight on it. Luke blocked and spun inside, landing an elbow smash to the temple that dropped Jacen to his knees. Luke was ready, had been expecting this since the fight started. Which in my eyes, reinforces the notion that Caedus is in the same league as Luke as a combatant. Jacen momentarily engaged Luke again before Luke gained the upper hand, (though not before Jacen was able to deal Luke an injury to his knee.) Even if Luke hadn’t resorted to this, I don’t think Caedus would have come out on top in this fight. Plagueis vs someone on Krayt's level and ROTJ Luke is a better fight. They came together in a blinding flurry of sparks, their blades colliding faster than the eye could follow, filling the dark chamber with flashing fans of color. And he was actually called grandmaster Skywalker! The son of legendary Jedi Knight Sharad Hett and his wife K'Sheek, both of whom lived among the Tusken Raiders of Tatooine, he eventually became the Padawan of Jedi Masters Ki-Adi-Mundi, and later, An'ya Kuro. When he did not glimpse a face in the light of his own blade, Luke knew something was wrong and stopped. The EU version was sooo much better. Here Jacen was able to dodge a possible death blow from his uncle. Luke caught another kick in his knee and found himself calling on the Force to keep his balance. The most sensitive of the three Solo children, Solo became a powerful Jedi Knight under his uncle Luke Skywalker's tutelage. Re: Anakin Skywalker vs DE Luke vs Darth Caedus on April 21st 2020, 4:34 am I feel like Luke would take notes from the Godzilla videogame's three way battle mode and stand back and watch letting the other two tire each other out. Luke feinted a dash toward his nephew's blind side, then-as Jacen pivoted to protect his injured eye-Luke hit him with a Force wave. Poor plagueis and tenebrous die everytime. Jacen stopped cutting at the tendrils and flung a hand toward the ceiling. In my view, this completely contradicts the idea of Luke beating Caedus whenever he wishes. Luke pressed forward, angling toward the Embrace to keep Jacen away from Ben. But Jacen thrived on pain, fed on it to make himself stronger and faster. He even went on to make use of them himself. As soon as he entered the room, Luke became acutely aware of their presence, and I do not believe him to be so incompetent as to forget their presence. Here Luke himself admits that the injuries he’s sustained from his fight with Jacen are anything but superficial, and needed to end the conflict with the short amount of time he had left before he could no longer fight effectively. "I don't feel any Jedi presence at all, and if I don't, then neither do you-nothing real, anyway. Luke Force-leapt after him, knowing that this Jacen- the Jacen he had caught torturing his son-would not hesitate to take Ben hostage... or to kill him. Once Luke landed some hits with his elbows, and smashed the both of them into the wall with the Force he was able to break free from Caedus’s grasp. The son of Han Solo and Leia Organa Solo and the nephew of Luke Skywalker, he is a major character in several novels, particularly the New Jedi Order series. There is widespread belief that Caedus was only able to pull off this maneuver due to a palpable environmental advantage over Luke, which I’m skeptical of. During the battle, Luke Skywalker pursued Caedus in a fierce duel in which both suffered severe injuries. Still flying through the air, he raised his own hand, palm outward, and pushed the Force out through his arm to form a protective shield. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Ben's jaw dropped, and Jacen started to spin, snatching his lightsaber from his belt and igniting it in the same motion, bringing the emerald blade around high to protect his heart and head. Caedus was fucking terrified of Luke and ran like a bitch. He flipped his lightsaber down in the same moment Luke's met flesh. Jacen followed the kick with a high slash. Darth Caedus, born Jacen Solo, ... ―Luke Skywalker, in lecture to Solo's class. And therefore Luke can (and I’m paraphrasing here) “outduel and kill Caedus in three moves on a whim.” I can to a degree, understand why this argument has been made, though personally I find it to be a weak one. So all in all, I think the “environmental advantage” is insignificant in the context of this fight. The Son of Chosen One. As mentioned earlier, this in itself should prove that Luke can’t outduel and kill Caedus whenever he wishes. Another Skywalker that turned bad again happens to be the son of Han and Leia and was created by Timothy Zahn in his book series. 19 years later, he encountered former Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi(Under the alias "Ben Kenobi") and joined the Rebel Alliance to bring down the Galactic Empire. Team Darth Caedus Luke Skywalker^ v. Darth Caedus Yoda v. Darth Sidious^ Revan v. Darth Nox^ The Hero of Tython v. Emperor Valkorion^ ————— Fatigued Luke Skywalker v. Slightly Fatigued Darth Sidious, Darth Nox, Emperor Valkorion^ He simply completed his pivot and landed a rib-crunching roundhouse. The lightning never came. Plagueis shows his grandson, and great grandson who's boss. But he does win. Interesting opinion. As I mentioned earlier, Luke surpasses Caedus in almost every respect. He has more experience than Caedus fighting other powerful Force users (many of which were much more experienced than Luke at the time he fought them). However, just how much weight Luke’s surprise attack had on the overall outcome of the fight is extremely suspect in my opinion. If they put all of their power into a combined Force blast right at the beginning, I see Mace and Dooku ending up badly hurt- either Tenebrous or Plagueis could hold off Luke+Caedus for a brief period of time for the other to quickly finish off the maimed duo of Dooku and Mace. Caedus only got in more reliable hits after poisoning Luke with the Embrace of Pain, something that would have dulled Luke's Force connection further. Come on now, Sidious ain't stomping 'em. Secondly, as the fight commenced Luke and Caedus clashed with their blades several more times, during which the fighting was heated and inconclusive. Dooku gets rekt quickly, Vader puts up something resembling a good fight but loses. And while it is true that using an eye gouge is an unsavory tactic, I believe Luke did so simply because he had no reservations about keeping the fight “fair” against Caedus. But even if he were somehow to forget, he was quickly reminded when Jacen pulled himself toward them. The son of Han Solo and Leia Organa Solo, Jacen was strong in the Force like his mother and uncle, Luke Skywalker. Force abilities? This is reinforced by his ability to immediately launch a counter-attack into Luke’s chest. The duo has perfect teamwork and are determined to win. Knowing Jacen would strike despite the wound, Luke rolled over his throbbing knee and spun back to his feet with a clearing sweep. Versus Series Darth Vader VS Darth Caedus I don't own the movie footage in this, Star Wars is owned by Lucasfilm, Fox, and Disney. Luke immediately springs into an offensive flurry. Which was exactly what Jacen was waiting for, of course. He felt the hot sting of the thorns pumping their venom into him. Hope you enjoy. Jacen's eyes widened. Jacen kicked at Luke's legs, catching the side of a knee. Luke didn't give Jacen a chance to surrender. Luke leapt after him, bringing his lightsaber around in a low, clearing sweep. In a moral crisis, Solo tried to withdraw from the Force and the war itself. The wound swelled and burned as if it were on fire. Luke closed to within two meters without saying a word. He landed an elbow and felt a bone in Jacen's face shatter. ", Ben glimpsed a dark figure stepping into the doorway. After seeing the blood trail Darth Caedus left on Jaina during the Second Battle of Roche, Luke Skywalker lead the remaining Jedi back to their secret base on Shedu Maad to prepare for Caedus's invasion. I honestly see Tenebrous winning due to the Force. However, considering his fighting style is described as strong and aggressive, not to mention the fact he was trained by Luke Skywalker, it is most likely he is a practitioner of form Five. Nowhere in this fight does it mention that Luke’s “barely healed” injuries prevented him from blocking any of Caedus’s attacks, nor did they prevent him from making effective counter-attacks of his own. Superior physicals? Plagueis and Tenebrous force abuse in round 2, he'd probably take out one of them in round 1. Jacen roared and stumbled away, shaking his head. Here Caedus was able to once again dodge a mortal blow from Luke, then proceed to land a Force-enhanced punch into the exact spot he had earlier. He found himself pinned in place, trapped by a bed of thorns Jacen had hurled across the cabin. But Luke was attacking low, striking for the kidney to disable in the most painful way possible. Here both combatants vigorously exchanged lightsaber blows after Luke prevented the Sith Lord from fleeing the battle. How does Kylo Ren aka Ben Solo from The Force Awakens compare to Darth Caedus aka Jacen Solo from Star Wars Legends? This is a notion which personally, I disagree with. A tremendous crash sounded from the illumination panel, and the chamber fell instantly dark. Luke had barely started to turn before a loop of thin tendril slipped over his head and tightened around his throat, oozing toxin and cutting deep into the flesh. Luke slammed an elbow into Jacen's ribs, but it was like hitting a permacrete wall. Here we see Luke making use of the environment with just as much ease as Jacen did earlier in the fight, showing that the “advantage” that Caedus supposedly held was indeed negligible. Ben cried from behind him. How do you think Luke wins against Tenebrous? He arrived at the Lake of Apparitions, where he traveled across the Lake until he found the spirit of his wife, Mara Jade. If Tenebrous and Plagueis play their cards right, I say they could win. However, I personally do not believe Luke using an eye gouge was an act of desperation. ", "That's because he doesn't want you to feel him, "Ben said. If they do, they should win. Dooku or Vader can stalemate tenebrous for the time needed for the rest of the team to destroy plagueis. Jacen reasoned that Luke must live for the greater good, and, thus, struck down Dinn and began his Sith apprenticeship. He brought his own knee up under Jacen's chin, hearing teeth crack-and relishing it. Jacen wa… "I'm afraid so, "he said. Giving his son no further chance to argue, Luke turned back to Jacen, who by now was almost free. He hit with so much cracking and crashing that Luke worried the rack had broken, but the thin tendrils quickly entwined Jacen in a net of pulsing green. I’ve seen on other threads that the only reason why Caedus was able to land any of his attacks was due to Luke’s previous fight against Lumiya. And for the most part they seemed to have been in a stalemate where their bladework is concerned, relying instead on hand-to-hand combat to further wound each other. Luke Skywalker is the main protagonist of the Star Wars original trilogy. After the duel, Skywalker gave the clone's li… "But he's here. He heard something crunch in his nose and was instantly choking on his own thick blood. 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